Wow, this week has been a busy one! For the past few days, the SGA has decided to be more proactive in the discussion to bring an ROTC site to UMBC. We had 2 emergency Senate meetings the past two days hoping to come to some sort of conclusion. The first meeting included both old and new Senators, but not everyone was present. After 2 hours, we decided to take an informal vote between both Senates, and the results split. Yesterday, we decided to hold another meeting mainly to record the pros and cons to present at the University Steering Committee. In addition, students outside the SGA, including members of Freedom Alliance and ROTC, attended the meeting and voiced their opinions.
Together, we compiled quite a lengthy list. The pros included $400,000 per year for ROTC cadets, the addition of the ROTC site would add a piece of diversity to campus, our future leaders in the military would be UMBC graduates, and the possibility to have some ground to change the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy. The cons included establishing an institution that goes against UMBC's non-discrimination policy, the fact that much of due process and shared governance is being skipped over, some students would not feel comfortable on campus, a general lack of information about the details of the program, and also the timing during finals.
After 2 hours of discussion and deliberation, the new Senators decided that they wanted to take a position on this issue. Since this was not a formal meeting, they could not cast a formal binding vote. However, they decided to informally vote on the question "Do you support UMBC submitting an application for ROTC site status at this time?" The votes were 3 yes, 7 no, and 1 abstained.
Formally or not, the SGA Senate was the only senate not to vote yes for the submitting of an application at this time. However, the decision has not been made yet, and it is uncertain when we will find out. At the University Steering Committee meeting, we discussed what action we need to take for both scenarios. If this does not go through, we need to continue having the discussion of bringing ROTC here in the proper fashion in order for us to make a clear decision when the opportunity arises again. If this does go through, major work would need to be done over the summer to make sure that the logistics of this program work out for the better. Either way, there will be people who are not happy at all with the decision, and as a community, we will need to come together to get through it.
ROTC Proposal
Friday, May 16, 2008Posted by at 5:24 PM
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good job...
I sincerely hope the program does not get the go ahead without further appropriate campus discussion.
The army is discriminatory, there is no doubt whatsoever. I know that hate is not a UMBC value, I just didn't know that our values might be for sale.
Discrimination may not be a UMBC value but respect and honor are, and that is the front of every armed forces program. We should house such a program so that the future leaders of the military will hold the same values as the ones we hold dear at this university. Please explain how you concluded hate from army cause I am sure you are not thinking that when they are risking their lives for your safety and freedom.
If you want to be homophobic or otherwise biased, fine, but own up to it before you attempt to make your point.
Thank you for taking a brave move to stand up for the core values of the UMBC community. This is a big issue and I'm sure it is especially difficult for a newly elected SGA to face this as their first issue.
Please keep everyone informed about what students can do to help participate in the decision making process!
I hope I didn't vote for any of these people.
By saying that UMBC supports ROTC doesn't say that it bashes gays.
Hi, I'm a Senator who voted in favor of this program. In fact, I'm strongly in favor of the things it will provide for students. Please keep in mind that there were several Senators that didn't exactly disagree with this proposal but felt it was rushed and voted no. We tried out best to represent you all and even though it was informal, the pressure was on...us. The morals and emotions were difficult but we look forward to working with all of you this year...
Let me show you your hypocrisy: Well I guess you will have to kick all of the athletic programs off campus because they discriminate against the non-athletic. And you will have to eliminate all of the academic programs because they all have some sort of academic standard. And you will have to eliminate all of the programs that discriminate against those who don't pay tuition. It terns out UMBC is not such a non-discriminatory place after all. So now you have provided selective discrimination based on a theory of non-discrimination and that makes you hypocrites.
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